tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5621116873668859185.post1382425493550189848..comments2023-05-15T04:43:29.513-06:00Comments on The devil is in the details: The ResultsSatanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07600770894018565339noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5621116873668859185.post-81946273293167539592008-02-08T19:58:00.000-07:002008-02-08T19:58:00.000-07:00Ouch. When I haven't quite slept for two days it ...Ouch. When I haven't quite slept for two days it usually means either a) I'm sick as a dog but have to power through anyway, or b) I'm working on a grant proposal. It's hard to tell the two apart.Satanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07600770894018565339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5621116873668859185.post-82493777123476011482008-02-08T17:40:00.000-07:002008-02-08T17:40:00.000-07:00Well, if I was to be truthful rather than snarky, ...Well, if I was to be truthful rather than snarky, I'd have to tell you that I haven't quite slept for two days and when I read CTK's guess, I really thought it said the Humphrey-Nixon one. But before I would answer, I would google it first.<BR/><BR/>Then I thought of the first post-Truman election. And I would've won! Something or other.Ubermilfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08685628102770311287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5621116873668859185.post-13285371331075308932008-02-08T16:01:00.000-07:002008-02-08T16:01:00.000-07:00Ouch. Brutal. Can't we all stop imitating presid...Ouch. Brutal. Can't we all stop imitating presidental candidates and be nice to each other? Or wait, would that be letting the terrorists win?<BR/><BR/>-- SatanSatanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07600770894018565339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5621116873668859185.post-72993210226561232272008-02-08T14:01:00.000-07:002008-02-08T14:01:00.000-07:00*weeps**weeps*CTKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11002443733127228667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5621116873668859185.post-51466637863207365092008-02-08T11:56:00.000-07:002008-02-08T11:56:00.000-07:00I don't read most things CTK writes.I don't read most things CTK writes.Ubermilfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08685628102770311287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5621116873668859185.post-15333189636501141792008-02-08T11:25:00.000-07:002008-02-08T11:25:00.000-07:00Er, CTK guessed Nixon vs. Kennedy, which was 1960....Er, CTK guessed Nixon vs. Kennedy, which was 1960. Johnson decided not to run for a final term in 1968, when the eventual nominee was Humphrey. In 1968 <I>both</I> candidates were former Vice-Presidents: Nixon for eight years under Eisenhower, Humphrey for four under Johnson. (I failed to note that Humphrey was the VP earlier, mainly because I forgot, so I just updated the post.)<BR/><BR/>Looking back at the 1968 primaries there's an amazing contrast between how it all worked then and now. In the first primary, McCarthy beat Johnson - neither Robert Kennedy nor Humphrey were even in the race yet. Kennedy had just won the New York primary over McCarthy when he was shot in June and was well ahead of him in delegates, but both were well behind Humphrey, who had not even run in a single primary. (Though he had surrogates running who would then give him their delegates at the national convention.) Most states didn't have primaries the, the delegates were chosen by the state parties, and in that era the state parties were mostly controlled by machine politicies, such as Daley's political machine in Chicago that put Kennedy over the top in 1960. Though Johnson wasn't running, he still ran the party machine, and in the end he effectively picked the delegate. Had Kennedy lived it might have come out differently, as there were enough non-machine delegates to outvote the Humprey block, but many Kennedy delegates supported Humphrey over McCarty in part due to the divisive primary battles McCarty had with Kennedy. Amazing stuff.<BR/><BR/>-- SatanSatanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07600770894018565339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5621116873668859185.post-66783515663805009212008-02-08T08:14:00.000-07:002008-02-08T08:14:00.000-07:00Damn!I thought of this last night when I couldn't ...Damn!<BR/><BR/>I thought of this last night when I couldn't sleep!<BR/><BR/>My other thought was the election after Johnson opted not to run for re-election, but CTK guessed that and was wrong.Ubermilfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08685628102770311287noreply@blogger.com